In this podcast Gavin got the opportunity to interview Robin Vincent the CEO of Care for the Family.  Robin has had a career in working with people. It was great to listen to his wisdom relating to organisational structure, communication and leadership. He talks about the tension between caring for staff while at the same time driving them to be the best that they can be. His thoughts about developing healthy cultures in organisations was excellent.  At the end of the interview they briefly talk about staff capacity and burnout. Hopefully both helpful and practical!